Love and Marriage Fusion Hack: You Don't Have To Be Perfect With Kerryne and Torrey Henich

Jami and Greg jump into a short “Fusion Hack” style episode and welcome Kerryne and Torrey Henich to share a simple relationship shift: stop expecting perfection and start looking for “small wins.”

Torrey kicks things off with a powerful sports analogy from Roger Federer: even elite performance can be built on winning just a little more than you lose—and that’s exactly how healthy relationships work too. From there, the couples talk through what “winning” in marriage really looks like: being heard, supporting your partner’s goals, letting go of petty scorekeeping, and practicing real forgiveness so you can move forward together.

5 Key Points

1. You don’t need to be perfect to be “the best” at marriage.
   The Federer takeaway: you can build something amazing by winning slightly more than you lose over time.

2. Define “winning” as progress—not domination.
   They emphasize that marriage isn’t a competition or a scoreboard; it’s about becoming better together as a couple and family.

3. Small “wins” matter more than you think.
   Supporting your partner’s goals (big or small) counts as a win because it moves the relationship forward—especially when life is hectic and messy.

4. Being seen, heard, and listened to is a relationship superpower.
   They call out the “listening piece” as huge—sometimes success is simply talking without it turning into a fight, and making space to hear each other.

5. Forgiveness is a win because it frees you (and helps you both move on).
   They highlight that forgiveness isn’t about the other person “deserving it”—it’s about letting it go so you can move forward instead of staying stuck in resentment.

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